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RedRob
05-16-2003, 12:13 PM
HEy does n e one got the hook up on car stero? I'm looking to get two 10" subs, a box, and an amp for my Stang.. n e one know a good place ;)?

-RR

bcoop
05-16-2003, 12:18 PM
10's are for pansies. Go get yourself 2 13" JL audio W-7's. They are only about $850 per speaker.

greenrebel
05-16-2003, 12:42 PM
hey bcoop, you're smoking crack, damn 2 w-7's in a stang (13.5"s at that:D :rolleyes: )

Hey RedRob, depends on how much you want to spend on stuff, need more details (ie. budget, if you have a favorite brand, etc...)

Jerred

bcoop
05-16-2003, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by stangcrazy
hey bcoop, you're smoking crack, damn 2 w-7's in a stang (13.5"s at that:D :rolleyes: )

I know man, I just can't put the pipe down. If he could afford it, I would do it. The car wouldn't fall apart for at least a couple months.:D A friend of mine is takinf the back seat out of his LS1, and putting 3 W-7s, and two PPI amps to run it. I told him he better start saving money now for the tickets he's going to get.

greenrebel
05-16-2003, 01:46 PM
exactly:D , I've got a friend down in austin with a 91' hatch and 1 10w7/ JL 500/1 and that thing is all you need in a mustang unless you plan on shaking something apart:D

garrison89'
05-16-2003, 03:32 PM
I think thats a little over kill (3 W7's). I have one 12' W0 and it does just fine. I dont think that the W7's sound that good. its just a lot of loose bass. You couldent play any punk or any thing becasue the speaker couldent keep up. i would rather have 2 8" JL's.

aggie97
05-16-2003, 04:22 PM
Originally posted by RedRob
HEy does n e one got the hook up on car stero? I'm looking to get two 10" subs, a box, and an amp for my Stang.. n e one know a good place ;)?

-RR

I have a couple of Fosgate 10's in a ported enclosure that fits in a 99+ trunk and hit pretty good. Haven't used them in over a year and a half and I need my garage space.

Offers?

slow50h
05-16-2003, 10:48 PM
What kinda music are you going to listen to? If you like hip hop go with some 12s. I listen to everything and have got 2 JL 10" W6 an they hit hard with rock and play the bass stuff really low.

ThreeFingerPete
05-17-2003, 01:45 AM
to the person who said the W7 was loose bass, your opinion is your opinion and you are entitled to it.

but YOURE WRONG, for the volume that those subs can make, the clarity is excellent, that is why they are so highly thought of.

the w7 is not an SPL sub, just ask JL.


adam

STROKD
05-17-2003, 11:36 AM
Originally posted by garrison89'
I think thats a little over kill (3 W7's). I have one 12' W0 and it does just fine. I dont think that the W7's sound that good. its just a lot of loose bass. You couldent play any punk or any thing becasue the speaker couldent keep up. i would rather have 2 8" JL's.

Um do you know anything about stereos? The W7 is the BEST sounding sub on the market PERIOD. It is NOT a SPL sub it was designed to be the most efficient sounding accurate subwoofer on the market ever, and play extrememly loud as shit. Sorry, you haven't heard one with enough power...

Who ever said there friend was getting 3 W7s, is a dip shit as well... You need AT LEAST 1000 watts RMS PER sub, and 2 PPIs aren't going to power 2 well let alone 3. The 13.5s weigh about 80 lbs a piece, and NEED about a 70-100 lb box per, so he is going to have the SLOWEST fucken LS1 on the planet if it sounds worth a shit, with a 600 lbs stereo in the trunk. I have 1 12W6v2, and it sounds great. You don't need any more bass than that. IF you want to shake apart your car, than 1 W7 is plenty, but you need at least 1000 Watts to it, and not some janky ass bullshit amp that might hit 500 watts when it gets struck by lightning. Sorry I use to sell this shit, and have been heavily into it for 10+ years, so I have the experience on this subject to speak the truth and let you guys know what you are getting your self into with 3 13W7s... lmfao.:p

Samhain
05-17-2003, 01:05 PM
Originally posted by STROKD


You need AT LEAST 1000 watts RMS PER sub, and 2 PPIs aren't going to power 2.....




If you use to sell this "shit", then tell me why the PPI 21400 wouldn't work?

slow50h
05-17-2003, 10:55 PM
W6's are good subs.

FunFordCobra
05-18-2003, 04:51 AM
DAMN! JL WHAT! I have no problems with JL audio, I'm just not a fan. They have been putting alot of better products out though.

stangdude85
05-19-2003, 08:19 PM
i have two 12s but i can not find a way to put them in because i dont want them to fire down , up , or to the back i want to ba able to lower the back seats and see them right there facing me but ther3e to big i thing im going to have to set them at an angle because there so dame big .......... should of got two 10s..........

ThreeFingerPete
05-20-2003, 01:33 AM
why the hell do you care what direction they face as long as they sound good?

lol at getting different subs so they will point the right direction.

sorry dude

adam

STROKD
05-20-2003, 02:07 AM
Originally posted by Rue
If you use to sell this "shit", then tell me why the PPI 21400 wouldn't work?

Because PPI over rates their shit. That would work fine for ONE sub, not three... "IF" that guy was going to run 3 13s he would need three of those amps, and he said he had two of some PPI, probably not the biggest F-in thing someone could think of, they are probably Sedonas or something jank... I figured one for highs and one for bump. If he had 3 and all of them on each sub in mono, it would make the vocal soundstage sound kick ass...:rolleyes:

FunFordCobra
05-20-2003, 09:47 AM
BWAHAHAHAhahahahaha!

garrison89'
05-20-2003, 10:06 AM
Originally posted by STROKD
Um do you know anything about stereos? The W7 is the BEST sounding sub on the market PERIOD. It is NOT a SPL sub it was designed to be the most efficient sounding accurate subwoofer on the market ever, and play extrememly loud as shit. Sorry, you haven't heard one with enough power...

Who ever said there friend was getting 3 W7s, is a dip shit as well... You need AT LEAST 1000 watts RMS PER sub, and 2 PPIs aren't going to power 2 well let alone 3. The 13.5s weigh about 80 lbs a piece, and NEED about a 70-100 lb box per, so he is going to have the SLOWEST fucken LS1 on the planet if it sounds worth a shit, with a 600 lbs stereo in the trunk. I have 1 12W6v2, and it sounds great. You don't need any more bass than that. IF you want to shake apart your car, than 1 W7 is plenty, but you need at least 1000 Watts to it, and not some janky ass bullshit amp that might hit 500 watts when it gets struck by lightning. Sorry I use to sell this shit, and have been heavily into it for 10+ years, so I have the experience on this subject to speak the truth and let you guys know what you are getting your self into with 3 13W7s... lmfao.:p


I have herd a 13" w-7 with 2000 watts of power. I just dont think that the W-7 sound as good as a few small subs. I dont listen to rap why would i want to have a sub that car play extreamly low bass? I know plenty about car audio, I may not be the most knowledgable on the subject but who is? I dont give a rats ass if its the "best" speaker on the market, thats your opinion. Go ask Bosten Accustic who they think makes the best speaker, there not goning to say JL. I have one JL 12" W-0 and that is plenty for me. I had a JL W-6 before this one and I hated that thing. Just my opinion. No need to harp on it!


Chris

garrison89'
05-20-2003, 10:08 AM
Oh and how much is a W7?

EW
05-20-2003, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by STROKD
Because PPI over rates their shit. That would work fine for ONE sub, not three... "IF" that guy was going to run 3 13s he would need three of those amps, and he said he had two of some PPI, probably not the biggest F-in thing someone could think of, they are probably Sedonas or something jank... I figured one for highs and one for bump. If he had 3 and all of them on each sub in mono, it would make the vocal soundstage sound kick ass...:rolleyes:

I'll disagree. 1400W RMS is enough to make the W7's sound good. You do not have to max them out with power for them to perform. I've heard many 12W7's on 5-600W RMS and they sound great. Some shops are putting 250/1's on 10W7's and they still sound impressive.

The W7's are $550, $750, and $950ea.

bcoop
05-20-2003, 10:53 AM
Originally posted by STROKD
Because PPI over rates their shit. That would work fine for ONE sub, not three... "IF" that guy was going to run 3 13s he would need three of those amps, and he said he had two of some PPI, probably not the biggest F-in thing someone could think of, they are probably Sedonas or something jank... I figured one for highs and one for bump. If he had 3 and all of them on each sub in mono, it would make the vocal soundstage sound kick ass...:rolleyes:

You sure are quick to call bullshit on something your stupid ass doesn't even fucking know about. So thank you and STFU. I don't know the part #'s on the amps. I do know it's not "jank." This dude cuts no corners, only the best. I know they are the most expensive PPI amps on the market. He has done a lot of checking into it. Everyone said you only need like 850 watts continuous to run them. And I don't think he is very worried about it being fast.

FunFordCobra
05-20-2003, 11:53 AM
*SMACK!*

Samhain
05-20-2003, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by STROKD
Because PPI over rates their shit. That would work fine for ONE sub, not three... "IF" that guy was going to run 3 13s he would need three of those amps, and he said he had two of some PPI, probably not the biggest F-in thing someone could think of, they are probably Sedonas or something jank... I figured one for highs and one for bump. If he had 3 and all of them on each sub in mono, it would make the vocal soundstage sound kick ass...:rolleyes:


I forgot who I directed this to :rolleyes: I have to keep in mind that you know already know everything.

bcoop
05-20-2003, 12:43 PM
IT is well known that PPI does not "overrate" their shit. In fact it is very underrated by the factories. Everyone I know that has ever owned PPI amps, have remarked on just how underrated thier power is. But then again, you know everything. I saw where you posted what you have in your car, but it wouldn't surprise me if you had a Jensen head unit with JBL speakers and a Crossfire amp. Quit talking out of your ass.

FunFordCobra
05-21-2003, 09:46 AM
I know that my rockford BD1000s came with a certificate that said that they came out with 1xxxwatts @ 2ohms. When I sent them in to get tested after I blew one, the one that worked actually put out around 700 peak. The guy who tested them took them apart and re did the whole amp pretty much and now they put out as much as a BD1500 turned all the way up and I havent EVER had a problem since. What Im saying is that amps differ just like cars, some put out what they claim and some are 99 cobras to the industry.

garrison89'
05-21-2003, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by FunFordCobra
I know that my rockford BD1000s came with a certificate that said that they came out with 1xxxwatts @ 2ohms. When I sent them in to get tested after I blew one, the one that worked actually put out around 700 peak. The guy who tested them took them apart and re did the whole amp pretty much and now they put out as much as a BD1500 turned all the way up and I havent EVER had a problem since. What Im saying is that amps differ just like cars, some put out what they claim and some are 99 cobras to the industry.

Agreed! I just think that PPI seems to take there lowest reading and advertize it. And people like kenwood like to take their highest reading and advertize it. Thats where i think that overrating/underrating thing comes from.

Chris

ThreeFingerPete
05-21-2003, 11:33 PM
no the way kenwood and other low cost amplifiers rate their products is, first

they give the amplifier a huge input voltage,then they cool the amp with freon, and put a specific sine through it, at that high voltage

they basically mean that this amp will do 10000000000 watts max when struck by lightning, because it wont do half of that max in your car, EVER.

cheap amps are a joke.

adam